Showing posts with label Pity the Powerless Christians. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Pity the Powerless Christians. Show all posts

Monday, October 24, 2011

From a Religion of Peace and Love

Okay.  My title can be interpreted the wrong way.

Just as I've defended the majority of Muslims who will never support violence against non-believers, I'll defend the majority of Catholics.  I'm not a Christian myself, but Christianity (as I understand it) is a faith that supports forgiveness of others' sins, leaving judgement to G-d himself, and application of the Golden Rule.  And the Catholic faith has a long tradition of insightful scholarship.

So, viral messages like this one sadden me.

I did a site-specific google search of the author's blog, and couldn't find these comments.  So I can't confirm that she wrote them.  But I think that most folks who'd skim her blog would consider her authorship plausible.

I present it as an example of the institutionalized spread of hatred via email.  Without further ado:


Ann Barnhardt is described as "a livestock and grain commodity broker and marketing consultant, American patriot, traditional Catholic, and unwitting counter-revolutionary blogger. She can be reached through her business at www.barnhardt.biz."  She has taken on Islam and they have noticed.    
Ruth    
DEATH THREAT:  Posted on her blog     
To:annbarnhardt  
I'm going to kill you when I find you. Don't think I won't, I know where you and your parents live and all I'll need is one phone-call to kill ya'll.           
ANN'S RESPONSE:  
Re: Watch your back.  
Hello mufcadnan123!   You don't need to "find" me. My address is 9175 Kornbrust Circle, Lone Tree, CO 80124.    
Luckily for you, there are daily DIRECT FLIGHTS from Heathrow to Denver . Here's what you will need to do. After arriving at Denver and passing through customs, you will need to catch the shuttle to the rental car facility. Once in your rental car, take Pena Boulevard to I-225 south. Proceed on I-225 south to I-25 south. Proceed south on I-25 to Lincoln Avenue which is exit 193. Turn right (west) onto Lincoln . Proceed west to the fourth light, and turn left (south) onto Ridgegate Boulevard . Proceed south, through the roundabout to Kornbrust Drive . Turn left onto Kornbrust Drive and then take an immediate right onto Kornbrust Circle . I'm at 9175.    
Just do me one favor. PLEASE wear body armor. I have some new ammunition that I want to try out, and frankly, close-quarter body shots without armor would feel almost unsporting from my perspective. That and the fact that I'm probably carrying a good 50 I.Q. points on you makes it morally incumbent upon me to spot you a tactical advantage.    
However, being that you are a miserable, trembling coward, I realize that you probably are incapable of actually following up on any of your threats without losing control of your bowels and crapping your pants while simultaneously sobbing yourself into hyperventilation. So, how about this: why don't you contact the main mosque here in Denver and see if some of the local musloids here in town would be willing to carry out your attack for you?    
After all, this is what your "perfect man" mohamed did (pig excrement be upon him). You see, mohamed, being a miserable coward and a con artist, would send other men into battle to fight on his behalf. Mohamed would stay at the BACK of the pack and let the stupid, ignorant suckers like you that he had conned into his political cult do the actual fighting and dying. Mohamed would then fornicate with the dead men's wives and children. You should follow mohamed's example! Here is the contact info for the main mosque here in Denver:    
Masjid Abu Bakr  
Imam Karim Abu Zaid  
2071 South Parker Road Denver, CO 80231  
Phone: 303-696-9800  
Email: denvermosque@yahoo.com    
I'm sure they would be delighted to hear from you. Frankly, I'm terribly disappointed that not a SINGLE musloid here in the United States has made ANY attempt to rape and behead me. But maybe I haven't made myself clear enough, so let me do that right now.    
I will NEVER, EVER, EVER submit to islam. I will fight islam with every fiber of my being for as long as I live because islam is pure satanic evil. If you are really serious about islam dominating the United States and the world, you are going to have to come through me. You are going to have to kill me. Good luck with that. And understand that if you or some of your musloid boyfriends do actually manage to kill me, The Final Crusade will officially commence five minutes later, and then, despite your genetic mental retardation, you will be made to understand with crystal clarity what the word "defeat" means. Either way, I win, so come and get it.  
Deo adjuvante non timendum (with the help of God there is nothing to be afraid of).  
Ann Barnhardt 

Sunday, April 17, 2011

Are we reading the same Koran?

Here we go again...

Yes, people throughout history have justified horrible things in the name of the gods they worship.

When people do these things, they should be punished.

But when evil arises, we need to fight the people committing evil.  And not the ones that don't.

But, hey.  Here's a viral emailer who may disagree with that.

The Joys of Being A Muslim Wife

This was written by a woman born in Egypt as a Muslim.  This is not hearsay, and it will scare  you.

Viral email is, by definition, hearsay.  It may be true - but sources need to be checked.

As to the claim that this was "written by a woman born in Egypt as a Muslim" - we'll get to that later.

Joys of Muslim Women
by Nonie Darwish

According to Snopes, this was not written by Nonie Darwish.  It's a highly editorialized restatement of some of the things she's said, and taken out of context.  She's never endorsed this viral email, as far as I can tell.



In the Muslim faith a Muslim man can marry a child as young as 1 year old and have sexual intimacy with this child, consummating the marriage by 9.  The dowry is given to the family in exchange for the woman (who becomes his slave) and for the purchase of the private parts of the woman, to use her as a toy.

If we're going to say something is "in the Muslim faith", I consider the Koran to be the ultimate arbiter.

Now, I'm not a Muslim.  I can't claim to understand the religion as well as a practitioner.  And I certainly can't read the Koran in it's original Arabic.

But I can provide quotes from an English text.  And I have a free copy of "Interpretation of the Meaning of The Glorious Qur'an", by Prof. (Dr.) Syed Vickar Ahmed.  So I'll go ahead and try to use it.

Now, let's get down to the "marrying a one year old" thing.  Quran 4.19 clearly states, "You are forbidden to inherit women against their will."  I don't know of anyone who would consider a one-year-old bride to be "willing".
Even though a woman is abused, she can not obtain a divorce.

Quran 4.35:  If you fear a break up between the two of them [ed: Husband and Wife], appoint (two) individuals (to settle their differences), one from his family, and the other from her's (her family); If they wish for peace, Allah will cause their reconciliation"

And if they don't wish for peace?  Nothing else is said, except for the husband's duties to ensure support and fair division of property.

To prove rape, the woman must have (4) male witnesses.

Let's get to the Quranic source.  4.15-17: "And if any of your women are guilty of being illicit in (sexual) conduct, take the evidence of four witnesses from your (own) people against them; and if they testify, confine them to the house until they die or Allah decides some (other) way for them.  And the two persons among you are guilty of lewdness, punish them both; and if they repent and improve, leave them alone; Surely, Allah Forgives and Accepts repentance (Tawwab), Most Merciful (Raheem)."

It's hard to say that a rape victim is "being illicit".  Even so, the four male witnesses are a protection for her, and not for a rapist.  Even if a claim of sexual impropriety is made against a woman, if one of four witnesses disagree, or if four witnesses can't be found, the woman can't be punished for the impropriety.  And this case, punishment is imprisonment in the home until they repent.

Often after a woman has been raped, she is returned to her family and the family must return the dowry.  

Quran 4.19 comes closest to this, but still refutes it: "that you may take away part of the dowry you have given to them - except where they have been guilty of open illicit sexual deeds (lustfulness);"

Again, I don't see how this would apply to a woman being raped.

The family has the right to execute her (an honor killing) to restore the honor of the family.

It seems to me that Quran 4.92 is quite clear on the topic of "honor killing" - "And a believer should never kill a believer."

 Husbands can beat their wives 'at will' and the man does not have to say why he has beaten her.

Quran 4.34: "As to those women on whose part you fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, caution (and warn) them (against the specific faults, at first), refuse to share their beds (next), beat them (lightly, at the very last);"

Well, ancient religious texts tend to go for corporal punishments not condoned in modern societies.  But this text would hardly excuse a man from civil penalties for beating his wife.  After all, alternatives (including divorce mediation) are provided in the context of the Koran.  And, of course, Quran 4.19 commands it's believers that husbands need to "live with them [ed: their wives] on a basis of kindness and justice."

So, even in ancient societies, "at will" wife-beating is clearly banned.

The husband is permitted to have 4 wives and a temporary wife for an hour (prostitute) at his discretion.

The text of the Quran allows for multiple wives.  However, it's quite a responsibility, and one that should not be undertaken if he's unable.  4.3: "If you fear that you shall not be able to act justly with the orphan (girls), then marry (other) women of your choice, two, or three, or four; But if you fear that you will not be able to deal justly (with them), then marry one"

At the time the Quran was written, marrying multiple women made sense - men died in war.  A lot.  The practice was probably helpful for a lot of war-widows.

But, again, when civil laws prevent one from marrying more than one wife, and I'm sure most modem Muslims would recognize that it's unjust to ask someone to break the law by becoming a second wife.  And multiple marriages are far from being a religious obligation.

As far as "temporary marriages" go?  Please.  2.226-233 clearly state that, for a divorce to take place, there's a waiting period of months - in order to insure the woman's welfare, and that of a potential unborn child.

The Shariah Muslim law controls the private as well as the public life of the woman.

Again, this is totalitarianism in the name of Islam.  But it's not the Muslim faith.

We should treat it with disgust, and do what we can to end the injustice.  Unfortunately, in foreign countries, our options are pretty limited.
In the Western World ( America ) Muslim men are starting to demand Shariah Law so the wife can not obtain a divorce and he can have full and complete control of her. 

If you want to argue for something that fits in your personal perversion of Islam, you're more than welcome to petition the government - It's one of our freedoms.  

However, American law treats divorce as a civil affair.  It has a tradition of adjudicating divorce even when religious authorities don't recognize divorce at all (such as some Catholics) , or the terms of the divorce (for example, an orthodox Jewish woman seeking a divorce without the man's agreement).

So, no.  I just don't see how they'll get it in American society.

 It is amazing and alarming how many of our sisters and daughters attending American Universities are now marrying Muslim men and submitting themselves and their children unsuspectingly to the Shariah law.

Sorry, American divorce law trumps religious divorce law.
By passing this on, enlightened American women may avoid becoming a slave under Shariah Law.

Repeating it doesn't make it true.

Ripping the West in Two. Author and lecturer Nonie Darwish says the goal of radical Islamists is to impose Shariah law on the world, ripping Western law and liberty in two.

Again, this is a defining property of totalitarianism.  Not of Islam.

 She recently authored the book, Cruel and Usual Punishment: The Terrifying Global Implications of Islamic Law.

Darwish was born in Cairo and spent her childhood in Egypt and Gaza    before immigrating to America in 1978, when she was eight years old. Her father died while leading covert attacks on  Israel .  He was a high-ranking Egyptian military officer stationed with his family in Gaza .

When he died, he was considered a "shahid," a martyr for jihad. His posthumous status earned Nonie and her family an elevated position in Muslim society.


But Darwish developed a skeptical eye at an early age. She questioned her own Muslim culture and upbringing.  She converted to Christianity after hearing a Christian preacher on television.

The article above confirms she converted to Christianity.  I can't confirm or refute the rest in my half-assed google searches.

In her latest book, Darwish warns about creeping sharia law - what it is, what it means, and how it is manifested in Islamic countries.

For the West, she says radical Islamists are working to impose sharia on the world. If that happens, Western civilization will be destroyed. Westerners generally assume all religions encourage a respect for the dignity of each individual.  Islamic law (Sharia) teaches that non-Muslims should be subjugated or killed in this world.

Peace and prosperity for one's children is not as important as assuring that Islamic law rules everywhere in the Middle East and eventually in the world.

While Westerners tend to think that all religions encourage some form of the golden rule, Sharia teaches two systems of ethics - one for Muslims and another for non-Muslims. Building on tribal practices of the seventh century, Sharia encourages the side of humanity that wants to take from and subjugate others.

While Westerners tend to think in terms of religious people developing a personal understanding of and relationship with God, Sharia advocates executing people who ask difficult questions that could be interpreted as criticism.

Again, this is the nature of totalitarianism.  And, under freedom of speech, we can't punish them for saying it.  But it doesn't mean that it's going to happen in America.  And our laws protect us against it quite nicely.

It's hard to imagine, that in this day and age, Islamic scholars agree that those who criticize Islam or choose to stop being Muslim should be executed. Sadly, while talk of an Islamic reformation is common and even assumed by many in the West, such murmurings in the Middle East are silenced through intimidation.

While Westerners are accustomed to an increase in religious tolerance over time, Darwish explains how petro dollars are being used to grow an extremely intolerant form of political Islam in her native Egypt and elsewhere.

Again, our options in foreign countries are pretty limited.  And our viral email author offers no solutions.

In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. to elect the President by themselves! 

Interesting statement.  I'm sure that the "proof" of this statement is just as... interesting.

Rest assured they will do so... You can look at how they have taken over several towns in the USA .. Dearborn Mich. is one... and there are others...

I'm Jewish.  I've been to Dearborn.  I've lived to tell the tale.  And I know plenty of Jewish-Owned businesses who are also doing just fine down there.

Sure, there are Muslims there.  But there's no enforcement of Sharia law that I can see.

I think everyone in the U.S. should be required to read this, but with the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on!

Yeah.  Because the ACLU is all about silencing our freedom of speech. Riiight.

It is too bad that so many are disillusioned with life and Christianity to accept Muslims as peaceful.. some may be but they have an army that is willing to shed blood in the name of Islam.. the peaceful support the warriors with their finances and own kind of patriotism to their religion. While America is getting rid of Christianity from all public sites and erasing God from the lives of children the Muslims are planning a great jihad on America ..

So, we should dismantle the separation of church and state for Christianity.  But not for Islam.

Nothing hypocritical or inconsistent about that.  No-sir-ree Bob.

This is your chance to make a difference...! Pass it on to your e-mail list or at least those you think will listen..

Or those who want to confirm that you're an idiot.

Monday, February 21, 2011

Things Are Slow in Email Forward Land...

I get confused when my father forwards messages like this one.

We're Jewish.  And my father was never particularly religous.  In fact, he's pretty antagonistic to organized religion in any sense.  And, normally wouldn't agree with right-wing religious folks.

So, why is he starting to forward "christian right" emails?

Beats me.

Here it is:
Only 31 words --- Think about it

Isn't life strange?
I never met one Veteran who enlisted to
fight for Socialism

86% will send this on.

Only 31 words --- Think about it

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG,

OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ,
AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT
STANDS,ONE NATION UNDER GOD,
INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND
JUSTICE FOR ALL!
I think it bears pointing out that the pledge of allegiance was written in 1892, with "Under G-d" added in 1954.  (Normally, I don't cite Wikipedia - but this is pretty well-referenced.)  When the pledge has been in existence longer without "under G-d" than with "under G-d", I'd consider it's presence a "matter of debate" rather than tradition.

If Muslims can pray on Madison Avenue, why are
Christians banned from praying in public and erecting religious displays on their holy days?
Because private individuals are using their own money to buy land, and participate in legal activity behind closed doors in their shared space.  Which is not the same as forcing non-believers to permit (or, even, pay for) promotion of a religion that they don't share on public space.
I was asked to send this on if I agree, or delete if I don't.
In other words, "Only those who agree with me should say anything."  Got it.
It is said that 86% of Americans believe in God.
... So are you saying that we should ignore that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" thing that we put in our constitution?
Therefore I have a very hard time understanding why
there is such a problem in having 'In God! We Trust' on our money and having 'God' in the Pledge of Allegiance.
I believe it's time we stand up for what we believe!
That's fine.  I'll respect your  for standing up for what you believe.  As long as you respect my right to disagree.
If you agree, pass this on, if not,
delete
So much for respect.